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BWW 1250RT NEW INSTALL
Hi,
Here is my story.
I have just purchased a Third Eye (mirror) system having watched many youtube videos and being very impressed with what I saw.
My kit arrived a few days ago and I proceeded to mount it on my bike.
I wanted to make it look as O.E.M as possible which involved a lot of dismantling of the bike.
I mounted the Radar unit where the reflector sits just above the rear number plate which involved moving the reflector to below the number plate. I also shortened the supplied bracket to move the unit back a bit so that it sits in the space above the plate and does not protrude.
I then dismantled the rack, grab handles, plastic cover etc above the rear light to gain access to where I wanted to run the cable. I drilled a hole through the plastic from the rear into the void where te rear light cables attach. The hole has to be large enough to pass the radar unit connector through. I then sealed this once installed with a grommet.
There is an excessive amount of cable length available to connect the radar to the main unit, which I mounted on top of the ECU under the riders seat. Cable run was fairly easy for this following the line of the frame under the passenger and riders seat, cable tied along the way.
The RT has a perfect spot on the inside edge of the mirror glass to mount the led warning lights, almost as though it was designed for this.
There is a lot of plastic to dismantle on the tank and side pockets to feed the wires up around the rear of the loudspeakers which also required to be removed and then through into the mirrors after removing the rear housing and unscrewing the mirrors themselves. Attachment is via the 3M double sided pads supplied and is a great fit and does not obscure the rear view from the mirrors.
A good supply of cable ties is required to do this job properly.
I took the switched supply from the accessory socket forward of the fuel tank and ran it back under the plastic tank cover following the same route as the led cables to the main unit.
This supply is on the bike canbus system and can easily supply the 300mah required and is protected with a supplied inline 3 amp fuse which I replaced with a 2 amp fuse probably still too big in my opinion.
\after putting everything back together I went out for a test ride.
This is where I think I have been very unlucky!
Despite setting it up as per the manual with the radar unit in my case 83cm above the ground and a 10 degree downward inclination, the test gave strange random results!
These ranged from not picking up vehicles passing on either side to sometimes picking up vehicles and alerting correctly their location to sometimes picking up vehicles but alerting them on the WRONG side!
Very strange and definitely unreliable.
I entered into online conversation with Innovv support, someone with the interesting name of “Jelly” so far, he as been extremely helpful!
Despite the time difference between where I am in the U.K. and his location he talked me through some tests to try to establish the problem.
This has resulted in this morning my receiving a message that he is sending me a new radar unit.
So far 10/10 to Innovv support they have been great!
I think I have probably just been unlucky and received a faulty unit, I’ll post up what happens when I receive the replacement but first impressions of how this company helps you if things go wrong is very good!
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14 Replies
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Hi Guy,
Have fun with your ThirdEye.
Maybe you can post some photos for inspiration from other 1250RT riders.
Yes, Innovv does indeed have good service, many companies can follow this example. -
Ok, this is all you see from the outside, very unobtrusive.
You probably wouldn’t notice the rear radar unit above the number plate unless you were looking for it.
The mirror leds are in just the right place in my opinion, right where it will get your attention if you look at the mirror.
They would probably only be noticed by others when they light up.
I will post how things go once I receive the replacement unit.
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This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by guy.
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This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by
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Hi Guy,
I mounted the ThirdEye radar unit in almost the same place (K1600GT).
The radar unit is mounted almost horizontally, so not at the recommended angle of 10 degrees. I feel that vehicle detection works even better. But I have no concrete evidence that this is actually the case, it remains a feeling.
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Just an update, I received the replacement radar unit as promised and now everything is now working as it should.
I think I was just unfortunate.
10/10 to Innovv for great technical support!
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This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by guy.
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Hi Guy
Do you still have the lights fitted to the mirrors? How are you finding that location?
Thanks
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This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by
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Hi Guy,
Good to hear that Innovv helped you. Thanks for the feedback
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Yes, still there Laurence and working flawlessly.
To be honest, I could not think of a better location, it is on the mirror glass, same as factory option.
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Thanks Guy. That was my location of choice before I found your post but just wanted to see if any issues arose. Also intend to source power for the Innov unit and a CarPlay unit from the same location you used.
There is not much discussion regarding the audio feature of the unit. Can you hear it from under the seat? If doing the install now would you place the main unit somewhere forward so that the audio signals are easier to be heard? Or, is it best located where it is muffled so it can’t be heard?
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I actually found the audio annoying and ended up permanently suppressing it by cutting out a space in some sound deadening foam and placing the unit in that.
Before doing that the audio was only really audible when stationary with the unit under the seat, once moving you would struggle to hear it.
As I could only hear it when stationary, it became annoying when someone walked past the rear of the bike or someone came up slowly beside you when stopped.
For me, the red led warning is enough and I didn’t try any other placement of the unit.
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Hi Guy,
I don’t understand why a beep was added to the ThirdEye. Okay, the beep during startup confirms that the ThirdEye is working.
But while riding, you’ll never hear the beep due to wind noise, helmet noise, etc. A Bluetooth connection to a headset would have been better.
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To be honest, I don’t really want an audible warning at all.
The ONLY time I want to know about a vehicle in my blind spot is just before I’m about to manoeuvre and I’m looking at my mirror (before also turning my head).
A constant stream of audible beeps each time a vehicle passes through my blind spot is both annoying and distracting IMHO.
The flashing led is sufficient for me, I will notice it when I glance at my mirror and it is an excellent additional safety aid.
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I came across this video after I had started installing my system. Now checking my units version to see if it has this ability.
https://youtu.be/nwClcFMFcFg?si=x7MIQbJhX_pl1h2y
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Innov have also replied to me and said that all kit supplied by them has memory of your choice. Will still do self test on start up.
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Hi Laurence,
I just tested my ThirdEye, and unfortunately, it doesn’t work for me.
I have the first-generation ThirdEye mirror version. So my version doesn’t have any memory.
Hopefully, you’ll have better luck.
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